{"id":27803,"date":"2023-03-28T06:47:18","date_gmt":"2023-03-28T10:47:18","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.3pillarglobal.com\/?p=25212"},"modified":"2024-10-02T12:44:48","modified_gmt":"2024-10-02T12:44:48","slug":"how-to-drive-outcomes-over-output","status":"publish","type":"podcast","link":"https:\/\/www.3pillarglobal.com\/insights\/podcast\/how-to-drive-outcomes-over-output\/","title":{"rendered":"How to Drive Outcomes Over Outputs, with Josh Seiden"},"content":{"rendered":"\nDo you know the difference between focusing on outcomes versus output in product development \u2014 and why the distinction can make or break a product? On this episode of <em>The Innovation Engine<\/em>, we explore how shifting the focus from churning out features to driving business outcomes can help product teams deliver more value to users and have an infinitely greater impact for organizations.\n<br>\n<br>\nOur guest, Josh Siden, is a designer, strategy consultant, and the author of the book <a href=\"https:\/\/www.amazon.com\/Outcomes-Over-Output-customer-behavior\/dp\/1091173265\/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=outcomes+over+output+by+joshua+seiden&amp;qid=1679623219&amp;sprefix=outcomes+over+%2Caps%2C74&amp;sr=8-1\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><em>Outcomes Over Output: Why customer behavior is the key metric for business success<\/em><\/a>. \n<br>\n<br>\nThe inspiration for the book was the two years Josh spent working on a stock trading app for a major financial services company that just\u2026never shipped. The experience taught him the importance of delivering incremental value frequently and putting products in customers\u2019 hands \u201cunreasonably early,\u201d as he says during the episode.\n<br>\n<br>\nJosh draws on his experiences and lessons learned working on this product and many others as he highlights how product teams can work with senior leadership to jointly navigate the inherent uncertainty of product development.\n<br>\n<br>\nOne recommendation Josh has for product leaders is to use three \u201cmagic questions\u201d that will ensure they\u2019re focused on driving outcomes rather than falling into the trap of being a feature factory. He explains the importance of telling a specific story about the user journey, highlighting key moments that make a difference, and building a shared perspective and understanding to make collaborative prioritization decisions. Finally, Josh discusses the benefits of outcomes-based roadmaps vs. the traditional &#8220;roadmap to nowhere.&#8221; Unlike their predecessors, outcomes-based roadmaps provide context for why the team is focusing where they are and outlines the key questions the team is looking to answer and hypotheses they&#8217;re looking to validate.\n<br>\n<br>\nTune in to the full conversation below to hear valuable insights into how product development teams can shift their focus from a feature-based approach to a business outcomes-based approach, delivering greater value to both users and the organization.\n<br>\n<br>\n<iframe style=\"width: 100%; max-width: 660px; overflow: hidden; border-radius: 10px;\" src=\"https:\/\/embed.podcasts.apple.com\/us\/podcast\/197-how-to-drive-outcomes-over-output-with-josh-seiden\/id814135639?i=1000606262937\" height=\"175\" frameborder=\"0\" sandbox=\"allow-forms allow-popups allow-same-origin allow-scripts allow-storage-access-by-user-activation allow-top-navigation-by-user-activation\"><\/iframe>\n<br>\n<br>\n<h2><b>Episode Highlights<\/b><\/h2>\n<ul>\n \t<li style=\"font-weight: 400;\" aria-level=\"1\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">How shifting the focus from features to business outcomes can help product teams deliver more value to users and organizations<\/span><\/li>\n \t<li style=\"font-weight: 400;\" aria-level=\"1\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">How teams can focus on changes in user behavior that create business value<\/span><\/li>\n \t<li style=\"font-weight: 400;\" aria-level=\"1\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Why telling a specific story about the user journey can help achieve alignment and overcome roadblocks<\/span><\/li>\n \t<li style=\"font-weight: 400;\" aria-level=\"1\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">How building a shared perspective and understanding can help stakeholders make collaborative prioritization decisions<\/span><\/li>\n \t<li style=\"font-weight: 400;\" aria-level=\"1\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Using outcomes-based roadmaps to provide context for why the team is doing something and outline questions and risks<\/span><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<h2><b>Resources<\/b><\/h2>\n<ul>\n \t<li style=\"font-weight: 400;\" aria-level=\"1\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Learn more at <\/span><a href=\"https:\/\/www.joshuaseiden.com\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">JoshuaSeiden.com<\/span><\/a><\/li>\n \t<li style=\"font-weight: 400;\" aria-level=\"1\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Connect with Josh on <\/span><a href=\"https:\/\/www.linkedin.com\/in\/jseiden\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">LinkedIn<\/span><\/a><\/li>\n \t<li style=\"font-weight: 400;\" aria-level=\"1\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Follow Josh on Twitter: <\/span><a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/jseiden\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">@jseiden<\/span><\/a><\/li>\n \t<li style=\"font-weight: 400;\" aria-level=\"1\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Read: <\/span><a href=\"https:\/\/amzn.to\/2VxMM2o\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Outcomes Over Output<\/span><\/i><\/a><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> by Joshua Seiden<\/span><\/li>\n \t<li style=\"font-weight: 400;\" aria-level=\"1\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Read Josh\u2019s recommended business book: <\/span><a href=\"https:\/\/www.amazon.com\/Good-Strategy-Bad-Difference-Matters\/dp\/0307886239\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Good Strategy, Bad Strategy<\/span><\/i><\/a><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> by Richard Rumelt<\/span><\/li>\n \t<li style=\"font-weight: 400;\" aria-level=\"1\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Read Josh\u2019s recommended book on writing, which he cites as an inherently creative process akin to product development: <\/span><a href=\"https:\/\/www.amazon.com\/Writing-Down-Bones-Freeing-Writer-ebook\/dp\/B00HEN3K0I\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Writing Down the Bones<\/span><\/i><\/a><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> by Natalie Goldberg<\/span><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<h2>Watch the Full Episode<\/h2>\nYou can tune in to the full episode via the YouTube embed below.\n<iframe loading=\"lazy\" title=\"YouTube video player\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/0CIU3ff-04s?rel=0\" width=\"560\" height=\"315\" frameborder=\"0\" allowfullscreen=\"allowfullscreen\"><\/iframe>\n<h2>Watch Episode Highlights<\/h2>\nThese are just a few of the highlights from this episode of <em>The Innovation Engine<\/em>, featuring Josh Seiden.\n<iframe loading=\"lazy\" title=\"YouTube video player\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/bMjR5BzJqqc?rel=0\" width=\"560\" height=\"315\" frameborder=\"0\" allowfullscreen=\"allowfullscreen\"><span data-mce-type=\"bookmark\" style=\"display: inline-block; 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You can download and subscribe to <i>The Innovation Engine<\/i> <a href=\"https:\/\/podcasts.apple.com\/us\/podcast\/the-innovation-engine-podcast\/id814135639\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">on Apple Podcasts.<\/a> You can also tune in via the podcast\u2019s home on <a href=\"https:\/\/open.spotify.com\/show\/1PhgHfonmamkDsEoVI9pgp?si=1h5WNnaHTeCwy64wcMAH5wSpotify&amp;lt\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Spotify<\/a> to listen online, via Android or iOS, or on any device supporting a mobile browser.\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Do you know the difference between focusing on outcomes versus output in product development \u2014 and why the distinction can make or break a product? 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